This podcast features Lex Fridman interviewing Keoki Jackson, Lockheed Martin's CTO, about the company's history of engineering marvels and its future in space exploration and AI. The conversation covers Lockheed Martin's involvement in projects like the Orion spacecraft and the development of AI-assisted systems for space missions, highlighting the challenges and opportunities of human-AI collaboration. Jackson discusses the importance of a safety-focused culture in developing complex systems, using the Boeing 737 MAX crashes as a cautionary example. He also addresses concerns about an AI arms race and Lockheed Martin's commitment to ethical AI development. A key takeaway is the emphasis on human-machine teaming in future aerospace systems, aiming for optimal piloting capabilities and enhanced safety measures.