This podcast episode delves into the challenges of artificial intelligence, particularly the gap between human and robotic cognitive abilities, and proposes machine learning as a potential bridge. The discussion highlights the need for human-based experiences and exploration to develop a robust "commonsense" understanding of the world. The podcast further explores the complex relationship between robotics and AI, examining the various subspaces within robotics and emphasizing the importance of learning and simulation in solving robotic manipulation problems. It also delves into the complexities of decision-making, reinforcement learning, and the ethical implications of AI systems, emphasizing the importance of responsible use and transparency in deployment. Finally, the podcast shares insights from a reinforcement learning researcher, highlighting the personal and professional journey involved in the field.