In this captivating late-night episode of the Lex Fridman podcast, Grimes dives into the interplay between technology and humanity. She shares her insights on our evolution into a "homo techno" species, emphasizing the balance between constraints and freedom in the creative process. The conversation highlights the often-overlooked aspects of music production and discusses how art can serve as a collective dialogue. Grimes also considers the dual impact of technological advancements, such as AI and social media, on our lives. As the discussion unfolds, she reflects on her journey as a mother, her shifting artistic vision, and the vital role of optimism in shaping our future.