Dan Shipper interviews Paul Ford about the transformative impact of Opus 4.5 and Claude Code on software development. They discuss how these tools enable rapid app creation with AI, blurring traditional roles and raising questions about the future of software engineering. Paul shares his experiences building applications using Claude Code, emphasizing the importance of understanding AI's capabilities and limitations. The conversation explores the emotional and social implications of AI-driven change, including its potential impact on the consulting industry and the need for a balanced perspective that acknowledges both the benefits and challenges of this technology. They also touch on the importance of provenance and transparency in AI development, and the need for new approaches to education and training in a world increasingly shaped by AI.
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