This podcast episode features an interview with Cass Sunstein, a renowned figure in law, behavioral finance, public policy, and jurisprudence. The episode explores Sunstein's impressive career and influence, including his collaborations with Nobel laureates, his work in various prestigious institutions, and his commitment to excellence. The conversation covers a wide range of topics, such as the unique personality and work ethic of Harvard Law professors, the approach of Justice Marshall to law, the intellectual environments of the University of Chicago Law School and Harvard Law School, the dangers of groupthink and echo chambers, cognitive biases and their implications for decision-making, the role of social influences in shaping behavior, and the challenges and value of surveys in understanding people's thoughts and feelings. The episode also touches on the enduring appeal of Star Wars, the success of the Impressionist movement, and the author's experience meeting George Lucas. Throughout the interview, Sunstein offers insights, personal anecdotes, and advice for those interested in law or behavioral finance.