#2419 - John Lisle

In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, Joe Rogan interviews John Lisle, author of "Project Mind Control," about the CIA's MKULTRA program. They discuss the origins of the program, its key figures like Sidney Gottlieb, and the ethical implications of mind control experiments on American citizens. Lisle shares details from his research, including the use of LSD, heroin, and psychological techniques, as well as the lack of oversight and consequences for those involved. The conversation also touches on related topics such as the CIA's attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro, the British LSD studies, and the potential connections between MKULTRA and figures like Ted Kaczynski. They further explore the broader themes of government secrecy, the importance of oversight, and the psychological aspects of conspiracy theories.