Terry Gross interviews Marc Fisher, a journalist from The New Yorker, about his profile of FBI Director Kash Patel. The discussion covers Patel's controversial actions, including his handling of the Epstein files, providing security details for his girlfriend, and exempting his deputy from a polygraph test. Fisher details Patel's lack of experience, his alleged retribution against those who investigated Trump, his promotion of conspiracy theories, and his financial dealings, including connections to Chinese companies and the Qatari government. The interview also touches on Patel's changes within the FBI, such as reassigning agents to immigration enforcement, lowering hiring standards, and the negative reactions of many FBI agents to his leadership.
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