const podcast = {   episode: 238,  title: 'Rise and Fall of JavaScript Libraries',  topics: [     'JavaScript', 'frameworks', 'accessibility'  ],  guest: 'Chris Ferdinandi'  hosts: [    'Craign Shoemaker', 'Ward Bell'  ]};

Recording date: 6/1/2023

John Papa @John_Papa

Ward Bell @WardBell

Dan Wahlin @DanWahlin

Craig Shoemaker @craigshoemaker

Chris Ferdinandi @ChrisFerdinandi

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Timejumps

00:29 Welcome
00:47 Introducing Chris Ferdinandi
03:30 Why are JavaScript frameworks bad for developers?
07:04 Sponsor: Ag Grid
08:12 If you take JavaScript out, aren't you limiting apps?
22:01 Sponsor: IdeaBlade
23:01 How do you minimize your use of JavaScript?
28:38 Accessibility and frameworks
44:18 Final thoughts

Podcast editing on this episode done by Chris Enns of Lemon Productions.

Episode 238: Rise and Fall of JavaScript Libraries with Chris Ferdinandi

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