515: Discipline, Detachment, and the Power of Going From "Why" to "What". W/ Dakota Meyer

Jocko Willink interviews Dakota Meyer, a Medal of Honor recipient and Marine Corps veteran, about his book "Why to What," which focuses on shifting from problem-oriented thinking to solution-based action. They discuss leadership, emotional discipline, and the importance of reframing negative experiences. Meyer shares personal anecdotes, including his time in the fire service and his decision to reenlist in the Marine Corps Reserve. The conversation covers the challenges of leading today's generation, the need for authentic leadership, and the power of hope and belief in overcoming adversity. They also touch on the importance of taking ownership, setting clear objectives, and fostering a culture of care and respect within teams.

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00:00Introduction to the "Why to What" Concept

Introduction to the "Why to What" Concept

01:21Dakota Meyer's Background and Re-enlistment

Dakota Meyer's Background and Re-enlistment

03:01Dakota Meyer on Writing "Why to What"

Dakota Meyer on Writing "Why to What"

04:46Shifting from "Why" to "What" After Trauma

Shifting from "Why" to "What" After Trauma

05:57Overcoming Guilt and Taking Action

Overcoming Guilt and Taking Action

07:11Emotional Discipline and Suppressed Emotions

Emotional Discipline and Suppressed Emotions

08:58Anchoring Emotions in Logic

Anchoring Emotions in Logic

10:07Uncontrollable Emotions and Acceptance

Uncontrollable Emotions and Acceptance

12:36Emotions as Indicators of Caring and the Problem of Trauma as Identity

Emotions as Indicators of Caring and the Problem of Trauma as Identity

14:37The Fire Service and Reframing Death

The Fire Service and Reframing Death

16:01A CPR Call and Shifting Perspective

A CPR Call and Shifting Perspective

17:21Reframing Death as an Honor

Reframing Death as an Honor

21:35The Skill of Reframing

The Skill of Reframing

23:40The DASH Process and Protocol-Driven Thinking

The DASH Process and Protocol-Driven Thinking

25:47Intentional Living and Habit Inventory

Intentional Living and Habit Inventory

27:03The Habit of Sleep and Setting Goals

The Habit of Sleep and Setting Goals

29:25The Box Method for Leadership and Decision-Making

The Box Method for Leadership and Decision-Making

31:32Achieving Goals vs. Emotional Porn

Achieving Goals vs. Emotional Porn

33:51Problem Solving and Intentionality

Problem Solving and Intentionality

35:50Clear Objectives and Peopleship

Clear Objectives and Peopleship

37:42Commander's Intent and Decentralized Command

Commander's Intent and Decentralized Command

39:02Leadership as Woodworking and Blaming the Next Generation

Leadership as Woodworking and Blaming the Next Generation

41:13Conditional Leaders and the Importance of "Why"

Conditional Leaders and the Importance of "Why"

43:14The Evolution of Leadership and the Importance of Authenticity

The Evolution of Leadership and the Importance of Authenticity

45:19The Difference Between Managers and Leaders

The Difference Between Managers and Leaders

47:13Listening to the Troops and Overcoming Fear

Listening to the Troops and Overcoming Fear

49:38The Importance of Listening and Respect

The Importance of Listening and Respect

52:07Decentralized Command and the Loss of Knowledge

Decentralized Command and the Loss of Knowledge

53:31The Importance of NCOs and Small Unit Leadership

The Importance of NCOs and Small Unit Leadership

55:31Ownership and Responsibility

Ownership and Responsibility

57:29Unconditional Leadership and Being the Example

Unconditional Leadership and Being the Example

59:15Stunting Growth and Decentralized Command

Stunting Growth and Decentralized Command

1:00:30Don't Be the Easy Button

Don't Be the Easy Button

1:02:17Discipline and Attention to Detail

Discipline and Attention to Detail

1:04:19Fraternization and Being Friends with Subordinates

Fraternization and Being Friends with Subordinates

1:05:24Trust, Listen, Respect, Influence, and Care

Trust, Listen, Respect, Influence, and Care

1:07:12Listening to Kids and Being a Dorky Dad

Listening to Kids and Being a Dorky Dad

1:09:33I'm Not Here to Be Liked

I'm Not Here to Be Liked

1:11:37Respecting Rank and Each Other

Respecting Rank and Each Other