This podcast episode features an interview with Sam Julien, the Director of Developer Advocacy at Okta/Auth0, discussing topics such as developer advocacy, newsletters, microtasks, and self-taught development. Sam shares his insights and experiences, highlighting the challenges of balancing work and parental leave, and emphasizes the importance of support systems and the awe-inspiring journey of parenthood. The conversation also explores the changing landscape of developer relations and the increasing focus on metrics and return on investment. Moreover, the origins and evolution of Developer Relations (DevRel) are discussed, highlighting the role of open-source software and the democratization of the web. The speaker also shares their self-taught journey in programming and the importance of having a support system. The section concludes with a discussion on microskills, feedback cycles, and the speaker's experiences of becoming a parent and the shift in perspective it brought.