Will Saletan: Sorry, but the Democrats Won the Shutdown

Tim Miller and Will Saletan discuss the recent government shutdown deal, with both largely agreeing that Democrats achieved their objectives by highlighting Republican healthcare policies and demonstrating their willingness to fight. They analyze the political implications of the deal, the motivations of the involved senators, and the potential for a circular firing squad within the Democratic party. The conversation transitions to the Republican's messaging struggles on healthcare, Trump's chaotic approach, and the broader economic concerns of voters. They touch on the Supreme Court's decision on same-sex marriage, Trump's pardons, and the administration's immigration policies, including the disturbing treatment of migrants. The podcast concludes with a discussion of Trump's recent public appearances and the booing he received at a Commanders football game, reflecting on the broader implications for his political standing.