Swyx interviews Jed Borovik at GitHub Universe about his work at Google Labs on Jules, an autonomous coding agent. Jed discusses his AI journey, the evolution of coding agents, and the transition of Jules from an experiment to a real product. They delve into the AI engineering journey, the importance of model quality, and the shift away from complex agent scaffolding. The conversation also covers the AI engineering landscape, the value of community events like the AI Engineer Code Summit, and the future of software engineering with AI, including the balance between local and cloud environments and the impact on software engineering roles. Jed shares his vision for a future where AI enhances the software engineering experience, making it more productive and enjoyable.
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