In this interview, Swyx speaks with Malte Ubl, CTO of Vercel, about Vercel's AI initiatives. They discuss the Workflow Development Kit, AI SDK, and Vercel Agent, emphasizing Vercel's commitment to making AI engineering more accessible and practical. Malte highlights the importance of building concrete applications to discover useful abstractions and the strategic decision to open-source the Workflow Development Kit. The conversation also covers the nuances of agent development, the balance between model control and developer control, and Vercel's internal use of agents for tasks like lead qualification and abuse analysis. Additionally, they touch on Vercel's increasing investment in Python support and the evolving role of AI in software development and security.
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