This podcast episode explores the evolution of productivity apps, with a focus on Google Sheets and the introduction of fzf. The speakers discuss the challenges and benefits of building a custom UI framework for a terminal-based code editor, and the pros and cons of using a Rust-based UI framework for developing fzf. They also delve into the technical aspects of fzf's text handling and shell integration, and the potential of AI to revolutionize how we interact with technology, particularly in the context of productivity apps and the terminal. The conversation concludes with the team's personal tech preferences and project interests, including their passion for music and the potential of using generative AI to enhance musical abilities.