Today on HR Heretics, we’re excited to cross post a conversation from Metaview’s 10x Recruiting Podcast featuring Viet Nguyen, Head of Global Recuiting Operations of Vercel, on using AI to analyze top interviewers’ transcripts, extracting their unconscious patterns and building tools that scale interviewing excellence.

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KEEP UP WITH VIET, NOLAN + KELLI ON LINKEDIN

Viet: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vietnguyen6/

Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/

Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:13) Progress Over Perfection

(01:00) Why Throwing Messy Data at AI Actually Works

(01:37) The Three-Hour Experiment That Changed Everything

(02:38) Create Leverage Where Possible

(03:30) Do Nothing vs. Do Something: The Real Choice

(04:00) Sponsor: Metaview

(04:14) Interview Begins: Meet Viet Nguyen

(04:51) The Rejection That Led to Friendship

(05:26) The Five-Year Tour of Duty in Recruiting Ops

(06:37) From Zero Coding Skills to Building AI Tools

(08:00) The Gaspar Effect: Decoding Your Best Interviewer

(10:30) What Makes a Great Interviewer Great?

(13:45) Building the Automated Back-Channel Reference Tool

(17:20) The RAG Database That Knows Everyone

(20:00) When AI Says “No Connections Found” (And Why That’s Okay)

(23:15) The Webhook That Keeps Your Database Fresh

(26:51) Perfect Is the Enemy of Progress

(28:00) “Anybody Can Cook” - The Non-Technical Builder’s Manifesto

(28:27) Automating Interview Debriefs: The Next Frontier

(29:28) Real-Time Debrief Summaries: The Dream State

(30:04) Where to Find Viet

(30:33) Community Show and Tell: The Vision

(31:15) We’re All Stupid Together (And That’s the Point)

(32:05) Friday Night Recruiting Projects

(32:18) Wrap

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Get Inside the Mind of your Team’s Best Interviewer, with Vercel’s Viet Nguyen [from 10X Recruiting]

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