The Bulwark Podcast episode features Tim Miller in conversation with two guests: Sam Stein and Frank Fukuyama. Miller and Stein discuss a Fox News report regarding changes in ICE leadership and the political motivations behind Trump's immigration policies, as well as a memo from center-left Democrats on how to win elections. Later, Miller interviews Fukuyama about his article on the real cause of populism, the discontent with liberalism, and the potential dangers of AI. The episode covers current political issues, ideological debates, and potential future scenarios, ending with a discussion about favorite movies and their commentary on societal changes.
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