00:00 Intro

00:50 AWS Outage

20:48 F5 Breach

41:06 Risk Management vs. Security Engineering

58:19 Moving the Needle Part 3

F5 Hack Blamed on China

Chinese state-backed hackers allegedly breached U.S. cybersecurity firm F5, gaining year-long access to its systems and BIG-IP source code, prompting security fears and causing the company to warn of revenue impacts and falling shares.

AWS Outage

A race condition in Amazon DynamoDB’s DNS management system caused widespread outages across the US-EAST-1 region on October 19–20, 2025, disrupting DynamoDB, EC2, NLB, and multiple dependent AWS services until recovery was completed the next afternoon.

The CISO Dilemma: Risk Management vs. Security Engineering

This post argues that quantitative risk management (QRM) in cybersecurity is a deceptive comfort mechanism that lets executives rationalize insecurity, urging CISOs to reject financialized “risk buy-downs” and instead demand true security engineering and systemic architectural integrity.

Hosts:

Jerry Perullo (Founder, https://adversarial.com/)

Sounil Yu (Founder, https://www.knostic.ai/)

Mario Duarte (Founder, stealth startup)

Producer: Tillson Galloway (Founder, http://githoundexplore.com/)

Adversarial Podcast S4E06 – F5 Breach, AWS Outage, Risk Management vs. Security Engineering

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