This podcast episode features Professor Christophe Ley, a prominent statistician, discussing the evolution of statistics in the context of data science, emphasizing its critical role in understanding and quantifying uncertainty while confronting the negative perceptions surrounding the field. Ley argues for the importance of mathematics in problem-solving, the benefits of interdisciplinary collaboration, and the need for statistics to inform political decisions, especially in areas like sports analytics. The conversation ultimately champions the necessity of data literacy and interpretable AI to navigate the complexities of data-driven decision-making in today's society.