Bob Safian interviews Meredith Kopit Levien, the President and CEO of The New York Times, about sustaining fact-based media in 2025. Levien discusses the business model of the New York Times, balancing hardcore news journalism with lifestyle products like games and cooking, and how this mix drives audience and revenue. She addresses the lawsuit from the former President, emphasizing the Times' commitment to independent journalism. Levien also explores the impact of AI, including legal actions against OpenAI and Microsoft, a licensing deal with Amazon, and the potential for AI to enhance reporting and efficiency. Finally, she highlights the strategic role of podcasts and audio in delivering high-quality information and expanding the Times' audience.
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