Ayesha Rascoe interviews Shaina Shealy, the host of the podcast "A Tiny Plot," about her five-part series that follows a group of homeless individuals in Oakland, California, as they fight for a small plot of land from the city where they can live in community and set their own rules. Shealy describes the encampment at Union Point Park, the city's attempts to clear it, and the community's resistance, including barricading the encampment. The discussion covers the city's offer of temporary shelter, which the group rejects, and their proposal for a co-governance model where residents have more autonomy. The interview also touches on the challenges and unexpected turns the group faces as they try to implement this model, including a conflict over the location of the land offered by the city.
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