In The New Yorker Fiction Podcast, Deborah Treisman interviews Margaret Atwood about Mavis Gallant's story, "Varieties of Exile." Atwood shares personal anecdotes about Gallant and discusses the autobiographical nature of Gallant's character, Lynette Muir. The conversation explores themes of exile, identity, and the complexities of relationships, particularly focusing on the character of Frank Cairns and Lynette's evolving feelings towards him. Atwood and Treisman delve into the historical context of the story, its relevance to contemporary issues, and Gallant's writing style, highlighting the blend of fiction and personal experience in her work.