#2392 - John Kiriakou

In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, Joe Rogan interviews John Kiriakou, a former CIA officer, about his experiences in the CIA, particularly his opposition to the U.S. torture program. Kiriakou recounts his early career, his role in capturing Abu Zubaydah, and his subsequent moral conflict with enhanced interrogation techniques. He details the repercussions he faced for refusing to participate in the program, including being ostracized and eventually prosecuted under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act. Kiriakou also discusses the deep state, the influence of AIPAC, and his views on current international issues, such as the Russia-Ukraine conflict and the Israel-Palestine conflict, as well as his eventual imprisonment and finding common ground with populist Republicans after leaving the Democratic Party.