In this episode of the OpenAI podcast, host Andrew Mayne interviews Greg Brockman, OpenAI co-founder and president, and Thibault Sottiaux, Codex engineering lead, about agentic coding, GPT-5 Codex, and the future of AI in coding. They discuss the evolution of Codex, the importance of the "harness" or integration with infrastructure, and the shift from simple code completion to AI-driven debugging and refactoring. They also explore the balance between intelligence and convenience in AI models, the competitive landscape, and the potential for AI to solve novel problems and improve code quality and security. The conversation touches on the future of coding with AI, the concept of AI agents, and the need for scalable oversight and safety measures. They also address the question of whether to learn to code in the age of AI, advocating for learning both coding and how to use AI tools effectively.
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