ReThinking: Brené Brown on courageous leadership

In this episode of "Rethinking," Adam Grant interviews Brené Brown, focusing on themes from her new book, "Strong Ground." They discuss the importance of being a learner over a knower, the skill of asking meaningful questions, and the necessity of care and connection in leadership. Brown introduces the concept of values as what one is willing to sacrifice for and emphasizes operationalizing values into behaviors. The conversation explores vulnerability, checking the stories we make up, and balancing empathy with boundaries. Brown shares personal anecdotes and insights on leadership, authenticity, and the courage to have difficult conversations, all while challenging conventional notions of executive presence and founder roles.