From managing people to managing AI: The leadership skills everyone needs now | Julie Zhuo (Facebook VP, Sundial CEO, The Making of a Manager author)

In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, Lenny interviews Julie Zhuo, former head of design for the Facebook app and author of "The Making of a Manager," about the evolving role of managers in the age of AI, the increasing importance of data analysis, and the blurring lines between traditional job roles. They discuss how management skills translate to effectively using AI tools, the trend of flattening organizations, and the need for individuals to become "builders" capable of leveraging AI to perform multiple tasks. Zhuo emphasizes the importance of defining clear goals, adapting to rapid change, and fostering a culture of continuous learning and feedback. She also shares insights on using data to diagnose problems and design solutions, as well as timeless management lessons such as self-awareness, seeking win-win outcomes, and cultivating conviction.