Jeff Glueck. He became the CEO of Foursquare in January of 2016 after 18 months as the COO of the company. Prior to that, he was the CEO of Skyfire Labs, co-founder of Site59.com and CMO of Travelocity. Previously, he was a strategy consultant at Monitor Company and served as a White House Fellow in the Clinton Administration. He holds a master’s degree from Oxford as a Marshall Scholar and a bachelor’s degree from Harvard College.

Famous Five:

Favorite Book? – Good to Great
What CEO do you follow? – Adam Neumann
Favorite online tool? — Stitcher
How many hours of sleep do you get?— 7
If you could let your 20-year old self, know one thing, what would it be? – “It’s going to be okay when you take a risk”

Time Stamped Show Notes:

01:46 – Nathan introduces Jeff to the show
02:53 – Jeff has been with Foursquare for 3 years
- 02:55 – Jeff joined the company while it was evolving into a hot social network in 2012
03:10 – Foursquare developed the technology of Pilgrim that turned it into a powerful enterprise business
03:19 – Foursquare’s early valuation was based on the fact that it would be the next big social media network
- 03:51 – The valuation was only made up because it wasn’t based on revenue
03:57 – When Jeff entered, they raised a round and they’re now growing over 60% in the past 3 years
04:13 – Foursquare is now more rationally valued
04:55 – Foursquare has a powerful community of people mapping the world
06:05 – Pilgrim is based on Foursquare’s nearly 12B check-ins
06:13 – Foursquare is having more check-ins today than it did 2 years ago
- 06:30 – The check-ins are called explicit ground trips
- 06:55 – Everytime someone check-in, they’re mapping the business for Foursquare
- 07:15 – The explicit ground trip makes the program powerful
08:06 – Foursquare launched the Pilgrim SDK which is a white label way for their developers to add in background content and give users a better experience
08:24 – Using the Pilgrim technology, Capital One can ask its user if they want to opt-in for being informed about how to receive rewards points
- 08:36 – People overwhelmingly opting-in
- 09:08 – The notification from Capital One encourages people to actually use their mobile wallet
09:18 – TouchTunes uses the Pilgrim technology
- 09:25 – TouchTunes runs 65K jukeboxes through mobile app
10:37 – Pilgrim technology has learned when to send notifications
- 10:47 – Pilgrim technology also informs their developers of the best time to send notifications
12:08 – When Jeff joined, he saw how everyone, including Fortune 500 companies, was using them for free
- 12:15 – Jeff told their CEO that they’re actually losing money and that they needed to start charging customers
12:42 – Foursquare didn’t lose even a single developer after putting up a paywall
12:49 – The model was licensed-based depending on the usage
14:15 – Three of the largest headphones in the world are Foursquare’s customers
14:40 – Jeff understands how the market changes
- 14:55 – 92% of the consumer spending is far from the 8% they spend on e-commerce like amazon
- 15:10 – Foursquare has predicted how Chipotle’s sales will go down by 30%
15:20 – “We’re not investors, we’re technologists”
16:16 – Jeff believes that Foursquare’s mission is to be a location intelligence company
16:34 – Jeff is proud of Foursquare’s technology; they can build tools that help companies
17:07 – Foursquare started out as a consumer company but now, more and more apps are using them for their applications
17:51 – Jeff believes that in the future, they can also make real estate better
18:45 – 90% of Foursquare’s revenue is from B2B
19:34 – Foursquare’s paying customers are some of the biggest brands in the world who want a company that is as good as Google Maps
19:58 – People don’t want to be dependent on Google in the future
20:18 – “A lot of smart companies want to build differentiated mobile experiences in the future and we’re helping them do that, that is our business”
21:48 – The Famous Five

3 Key Points:

Even if your company can go IPO, it doesn’t mean that it should.
Offering your services or products for free may work for the short-term, but if your service adds value to your customers, they WILL pay.
Focus on what your company is good at.

Resources Mentioned:

Simplero – The easiest way to launch your own membership course like the big influencers do but at 1/10th the cost.
The Top Inbox – The site Nathan uses to schedule emails to be sent later, set reminders in inbox, track opens, and follow-up with email sequences
GetLatka - Database of all B2B SaaS companies who have been on my show including their revenue, CAC, churn, ARPU and more
Klipfolio – Track your business performance across all departments for FREE
Hotjar – Nathan uses Hotjar to track what you’re doing on this site. He gets a video of each user visit like where they clicked and scrolled to make the site a better experience
Acuity Scheduling – Nathan uses Acuity to schedule his podcast interviews and appointments
Host Gator– The site Nathan uses to buy his domain names and hosting for the cheapest price possible
Audible– Nathan uses Audible when he’s driving from Austin to San Antonio (1.5-hour drive) to listen to audio books

Show Notes provided by Mallard Creatives

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