Ezra Klein interviews Utah Governor Spencer Cox about the political climate in the wake of Charlie Kirk's murder. Cox reflects on his prior concerns about toxic polarization, the events of the day of the shooting, and the broader implications for the country. They discuss the rise of political violence, the influence of social media, and the importance of community and individual responsibility. Cox advocates for embracing differences within a constitutional framework and encourages people to disengage from the virtual world and build real-world connections, emphasizing service and local engagement. He also shares book recommendations focused on virtue, the Constitution, and personal freedom.
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