The Nature of The Self, with Dick Schwartz

In this interview podcast episode, Dr. Richard C. Schwartz, the creator of the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model, discusses the concept of the "self" within IFS, its dual nature as both an inner leader and a boundaryless state, and its role in healing. He addresses the spiritual dimensions of the self, its connection to quantum physics, and how it differs from the concept of self in attachment theory. Dr. Schwartz also explores the idea of self as an agent of healing, the challenges of embodying self, especially in cases of severe trauma, and the potential impact of privilege on accessing self. He further discusses the evolution of his understanding of self over the past 40 years, emphasizing its spiritual nature and connection to something much larger.