#236 — AI Sales Engines for Home Services: Tal Shub on Craft & Closing More Deals
In this episode of Owned and Operated, John Wilson sits down with Tal Shub, CEO of Craft, to dive into how AI is transforming sales in the home service industry.
Tal shares how Craft built an AI-powered sales engine that listens to customer conversations, provides real-time coaching, and helps service teams recover lost revenue. From boosting average tickets with better financing conversations to coaching technicians on open-ended questions and process-driven sales, Craft is creating a playbook for the next era of home service growth.
The conversation goes deep into why team adoption matters more than features, how to overcome technician resistance to recording calls, and what separates top performers from the rest. John also shares firsthand results from rolling out Craft across his $30M company — including higher tickets, improved training, and stronger close rates.
This episode isn’t just about AI tools. It’s about how technology, leadership, and process come together to drive real performance in the field. If you’re serious about building a stronger sales culture in your HVAC, plumbing, or electrical business, this conversation is a must-listen.

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Tal Shub (Craft)

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