In this episode of "Rethinking," Adam Grant interviews Rutger Bregman, a Dutch historian and author of "Moral Ambition." They discuss the concept of moral ambition, which combines idealism with entrepreneurial drive to make a significant positive impact on the world. Bregman argues that ambitious individuals should redirect their focus towards moral causes, using their privilege and resources to address global issues. They explore how to balance personal career goals with moral responsibilities, the importance of community in maintaining idealism, and the roles of guilt and shame in motivating pro-social behavior. Bregman also shares insights from his research on abolitionists and resistance heroes, emphasizing the power of collective action and the need to challenge learned helplessness. The conversation concludes with practical advice for those seeking to become more morally ambitious, including joining a moral ambition circle and starting with small acts of resistance.
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