Chris Williamson interviews Jesse Michels about UFOs, exploring the evidence, the potential for psyops, and the global nature of the phenomenon. Michels discusses the shift in the UFO community, the credibility of witnesses, and the connection between UFO sightings and nuclear sites. They delve into theories about non-human intelligences, the role of the Department of Energy, and the possibility of underground military bases. The conversation extends to the current state of physics, the Byfield-Brown effect, and the potential for a computational universe, touching on consciousness and the limitations of current scientific models.
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