Matt interviews Mark Chen, Head of Research at OpenAI, about the upcoming GPT-5 release. They discuss the internal excitement at OpenAI, balancing research and product development, and lessons learned from GPT-4. Chen details the use of synthetic data in GPT-5, its improved coding capabilities, and the integration of pre-training and reasoning paradigms. They also explore the role of open-source models, benchmarks, and the potential impact of AI on knowledge work, with Chen expressing optimism about AI's ability to improve the quality of life.
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