This podcast features an interview with Ron Fournier, focusing on Michigan's political landscape as a key indicator for national trends. The discussion covers the potential for an independent candidate, Mike Duggan, in the governor's race, the dynamics within the Democratic Party, and the Republican Party's future without Trump. The conversation also touches on the state's economic revitalization, the role of labor unions, and the crisis in local news, with both speakers sharing their perspectives on the need for change and more effective institutions. Additionally, the host provides an analysis of President Trump's economic policies, questioning whether they represent a summer swoon or the beginning of the end, drawing parallels to Biden's experience with the Afghanistan withdrawal.
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