This podcast episode explores the conflict between the Romans and Carthaginians in Sicily, highlighting the different perspectives and justifications of both sides. The Romans seize control of Messina and justify their actions as self-defense. They build their own fleet and achieve significant victories at sea. However, they struggle in the land war as the Carthaginians adapt their strategies. The Romans launch a full-blown invasion of Carthage but suffer a defeat led by Xanthippus and the capture of Regulus. Despite setbacks, the Romans continue their efforts and capture the city of Palermo. The Carthaginians face a dire situation, but find hope in Hamilcar the Suffet. Hamilcar adopts guerrilla tactics, preserving a stalemate against the Romans. The Romans focus on naval victory and build a formidable fleet. Negotiations between Carthaginians and Romans result in Carthage's withdrawal from Sicily but not Sardinia and paying an indemnity. The situation with the mercenaries becomes alarming, leading to the rise of Matho and the merciless revolt. Hamilcar's brilliance in command leads to victories against the mercenaries, but escalating violence makes peace settlements impossible. The decisive moment comes in the Battle of the Saw, where Hamilcar traps and defeats the mercenaries. The war reaches its hideous climax with the public punishment of Matho. The episode also delves into Gustave Flaubert's depiction of Carthage, focusing on the aftermath of sacrifice, and explores the story of Hannibal, who became the greatest enemy in Roman history.