In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, Lenny Rachitsky interviews Bret Taylor, a legendary builder and founder with experience as CTO of Meta, co-CEO of Salesforce, and chairman of the board at OpenAI. They discuss Bret's biggest mistake as a product manager at Google and the lessons he learned from it, which led to the creation of Google Maps. Bret shares the mindsets and habits that contributed to his success in various roles, emphasizing the importance of impact and continuous learning. The conversation also covers the future of coding, the potential of AI agents, and go-to-market strategies for AI products, with Bret advocating for outcome-based pricing. He shares his insights on where founders should focus in the AI market, highlighting the potential of building agents and the importance of understanding business problems deeply.
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