What are some practical ways to make an impact as a leader? In this episode, Kevin welcomes Margaret Moore and Jeffrey Hull to discuss how leaders can close the gap between science and real-world application. Margaret and Jeffrey translated hundreds of leadership studies into nine capacities. These are grouped into three levels: self, relationships with others, and the larger organizational and societal impact. They share what it means to lead intentionally, develop agility and authenticity, and build psychologically safe environments. They also talk about concepts like the "quiet ego," balancing compassion and strategy, and why conscious leadership underpins all other capacities.

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0:00 Introduction and Framing the Conversation
1:16 About the Podcast and Live Opportunities
1:48 Kevin Introduces His Book Flexible Leadership
2:15 Guest Introductions Margaret Moore and Jeffrey Hull
3:14 Why the Word “Impact”
5:26 How the Book Came to Be
8:09 Researching the Research
13:28 Three Segments of Leadership Capacities
17:32 The 3 Self Focused Capacities
19:39 The 3 Team or Other Focused Capacities
23:39 The 3 Organization Focused Capacities
27:48 Most Misunderstood Capacities
30:12 The Concept of the Quiet Ego
32:42 Book Takeaways and Closing Reflections
35:03 What They’re Reading
37:04 Where to Learn More
38:24 Kevin’s Final Challenge Now What

Their Story: Jeffrey Hull, PhD, and Margaret Moore, MBA are the authors of The Science of Leadership: Nine Ways to Expand Your Impact. Jeffery has focused on leadership for over 30 years, as an HR leader with multiple corporations, cofounder of a leadership development consultancy, nonprofit executive director, and coach to leaders across the globe. He brings years of translating science into leadership as a consultant, psychologist, and teacher at New York University and Harvard Medical School. In writing this book, Jeff is excited to see his chosen professions—leadership and coaching—getting the scientific attention and application they deserve. Margaret blends leadership, coaching, and science, including thirty years in C-suite roles, co-leading four successful start-ups in biotechnology and coaching, and two decades of professional coaching and coach training. For 25 years, she has been a prolific translator of science into coaching, training, and leadership practice. Margaret's vision for this book is to help bring scientists, leaders, and coaches together to foster leadership excellence and support everyday leaders far and wide.

https://www.scienceofleadership.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreywhull/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/coachmeg/

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Book Recommendations

The Science of Leadership: Nine Ways to Expand Your Impact by Jeffrey Hull and Margaret Moore
The Transformative Self: Personal Growth, Narrative Identity, and the Good Life (Explorations in Narrative Psychology) by Jack J. Bauer
The Trauma of Everyday Life by Mark Epstein M.D
Thoughts Without A Thinker: Psychotherapy from a Buddhist Perspective by Mark Epstein
Rise Above: Overcome a Victim Mindset, Empower Yourself, and Realize Your Full Potential by Scott Barry Kaufman PhD
James by Percival Everett

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