This podcast episode covers a wide range of topics related to artificial intelligence (AI) and its future. It explores the influence of neuroscience on AI development, the role of intuition in AI, the combination of deep reinforcement learning and multimodal models for achieving artificial general intelligence (AGI), the challenges and potential solutions for grounding AGI systems, the timeline for AGI development, the challenges and opportunities in scaling AI systems, the limitations of memorization in AI models, the need for collaboration and governance in AI, the importance of imagination in AI, the balancing of open source and security in frontier labs, DeepMind's progress in robotics, the challenges and synergies of merging the DeepMind and Brain teams, and the speaker's thoughts on recent progress in AGI and the public's reaction to it.