In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, Madhavan Ramanujam discusses key lessons from his new book, "Scaling Innovation," a sequel to "Monetizing Innovation." Madhavan emphasizes the importance of balancing market share and wallet share for enduring business success, detailing common traps founders fall into, such as prioritizing growth over monetization or undervaluing their product. He shares strategies like "beautifully simple pricing" for startups and mastering negotiation for scale-ups, including tactics for value selling and effective concession strategies. The conversation shifts to AI pricing, highlighting its differences from traditional models, particularly the need for early monetization and value capture. Madhavan introduces a 2x2 framework to help AI companies choose the right pricing model based on attribution and autonomy, advocating for outcome-based pricing. He also touches on the importance of approaching Proof of Concepts (POCs) as opportunities to build a business case and co-create ROI models with customers.
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