In this episode of The Mel Robbins Podcast, Mel interviews Carl Lentz, a former mega-church pastor, about self-forgiveness and rebuilding life after making significant mistakes. Carl shares his experiences of professional and personal downfall, including infidelity and addiction, and emphasizes the importance of taking accountability, facing one's actions, and extracting lessons from difficult experiences. He stresses that one's worst chapter doesn't have to be the last, and encourages listeners to confront their "fractures" and sources of dread. Carl defines shame as inherently selfish, and encourages listeners to release themselves from the shackles of shame by investing in a new, better version of themselves. He and Mel discuss the importance of self-forgiveness, and the need to control one's own narrative.
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