When this podcast was first launched in 2018, the very first guest was Whole Foods Market CEO and co-founder John Mackey. In that episode, we talked about his book Conscious Capitalism. Well, John has a new book out now, Conscious Leadership, and to commemorate our 50th episode, he rejoins the podcast for a second conversation and rest assured, John does not disappoint.

In this episode we cover a wide range of topics:

What did John learn from an attempted (unsuccessful) coup at Whole Foods to oust him from the CEO position?
In which cultivated meat company did both Whole Foods Market and John personally take an investment position?
What does he think future generations will think about our treatment of animals?
Why does plant-based cheese sell better when it’s not located in the dairy section?
Will there be a post-Whole Foods chapter in John’s life?

Enjoy the full episode, and all of these questions (plus more!) will be answered.

Discussed in this episode

Several books by John Mackey
John’s 2018 interview Business for Good
Seth Goldman’s 2018 interview on Business for Good
Paul’s book Clean Meat
Paul’s definitely-not-repulsive immune-boosting covid concoction
World Wildlife Fund’s report showing humans that have decimated nearly 70% of wild animals in half a century.
John’s book recommendations: Shoe Dog by Phil Knight, Essential Spirituality by Roger Walsh, and Path with Heart by Jack Kornfield

Whole Foods Market History

Whole Foods Market was founded in Austin, Texas, when four local businesspeople decided the natural foods industry was ready for a supermarket format. Co-founders included John Mackey and Renee Lawson Hardy, owners of Safer Way Natural Foods, and Craig Weller and Mark Skiles, owners of Clarksville Natural Grocery. The original Whole Foods Market opened in 1980 with a staff of only 19 people. It was an immediate success. At the time, there were less than half a dozen natural food supermarkets in the United States.

In 2017, Amazon purchased Whole Foods Market for nearly $14 billion. As of 2020, the company operates more than 500 store locations.

Ep.50 | The Conscious Leader: Whole Foods Market CEO John Mackey

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