A Cheeky Pint with serial entrepreneur Pieter Levels (@levelsio)

In this interview podcast, John Collison interviews Pieter Levels, a prominent indie hacker and digital nomad, about his journey and philosophy. They discuss Pieter's early entrepreneurial attempts, his success with independently built businesses like NomadList and PhotoAI, and his perspective on the indie hacker approach versus traditional VC-funded startups. Pieter shares his experiences as a digital nomad, the challenges of maintaining a global lifestyle, and his thoughts on the European tech scene, including the need for regulatory reform and a more pro-business mindset. The conversation also touches on automation, investment strategies, and Pieter's future plans, including the possibility of venturing into VC.