Patrick Debois, the mind behind “DevOps,” joins Simon Maple to unpack the system-level shifts AI is driving across software engineering, drawn from what he saw firsthand at the AI Engineer’s World Fair.

They also get into:
• how inconsistent codebases confuse AI
• why running agents locally is becoming obsolete
• inside OpenAI’s concept of “model specs”

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(00:00) Trailer
(01:03) Introduction
(02:57) AI Engineering World Fair: Conference Overview
(07:38) Seven Key Lessons from the Fair
(08:51) AI Coding Agents Everywhere
(11:14) Evolving AI Dev Tool Practices
(12:23) Specs as the New Code
(15:00) Agents Running in the Cloud
(24:00) Parallel Agent Execution
(36:58) CI/CD Shifting Left
(40:55) AI Productivity Multipliers
(47:15) Outro

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