In this episode of the 10% Happier podcast, Dan Harris interviews Ezra Klein about how he maintains equanimity amidst the chaotic news environment. They discuss Klein's digital hygiene, including his use of "the brick" to limit phone usage, his meditation practice, and his concerns about the disordering forces of Trump, Musk and AI. Klein emphasizes the importance of embodiment and being attentive to one's state, and they explore the challenges of raising kids in a disembodied, screen-filled world. They also touch on the tension between striving for self-improvement and accepting one's current state, and Klein shares his new end-of-day ritual involving candles and reduced inputs. The conversation concludes with a discussion about the importance of community and the uncertainties of the future in the age of AI.
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