A.I., Mars and Immortality: Are We Dreaming Big Enough? | Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

In this episode of Interesting Times, Ross Douthat interviews Peter Thiel, exploring Thiel's "stagnation thesis," the idea that technological progress has slowed significantly since the mid-20th century. They discuss the metrics for measuring dynamism versus stagnation, the cultural anxieties surrounding growth, and the potential for societal unraveling if progress stalls. Thiel elaborates on his political investments, particularly his support for Donald Trump, as a means of disrupting the status quo and initiating conversations about American decline. The conversation further explores the role of AI, its potential to drive progress or reinforce conformity, and Thiel's skepticism towards transhumanist visions. Finally, they delve into Thiel's concept of the Antichrist as a force promoting stagnation through the guise of safety and regulation, and whether such a force is already subtly at play in the world.