Rick Steves Is Tired of Hearing 'Have a Safe Trip'

Ryan Knutson interviews travel business owner Rick Steves at the Cascade PBS Ideas Festival in Seattle. Steves discusses his early travel experiences, his business philosophy, and how travel can be a political act that fosters understanding and challenges stereotypes. He reflects on keeping his staff employed during the pandemic, his "Hippie Trail" trip, and his outspoken political views, including his support for marijuana legalization. Steves also touches on the decline of foreign visitors to the U.S. and shares his perspective on balancing business with personal ethics. The conversation ends with a quick round of questions about retirement and his unusual decision not to participate in airline frequent flyer programs.