You've vibe coded an app. Now what?

In this episode of The Stack Overflow Podcast, host Ryan Donovan interviews Vish Abrams, Chief Architect at Heroku, about the rise of "vibe coding" and its implications for software development. They discuss the current state of low-code development, the challenges of deploying and maintaining applications created through vibe coding, and the evolving skill sets required for both traditional and non-traditional software engineers. Abrams emphasizes the importance of establishing a solid foundation for these applications, drawing parallels to the 12-factor app manifesto and suggesting a similar set of guidelines for LLMs. The conversation also covers the need for standards in the agent and LLM space, the potential of MCP, and how platforms like Heroku can support the deployment and scaling of vibe-coded applications, including integrating AI inferencing.