This podcast episode delves into the recent news of Coinbase's Base layer two chain, its implications for the OP Stack, and the ultimate vision of interconnected Superchains. The guests emphasize the importance of public goods contributions, decentralization in Layer 2 protocols, and a shared standard for interoperability. The conversation touches upon the transition from chaininess to chain-agnosticism, the challenges of creating a unified ecosystem, and the bedrock release of the OP Stack as a milestone towards true decentralization.