This podcast episode explores the profound influence of Christianity on Western civilization, arguing that it has shaped our ethics, morality, and even the concept of the secular. The speakers discuss the decline of institutional Christianity and its impact on society, the paradoxical relationship between Christianity and atheism, and the complex role of religion in morality and society. Despite the rise of secularism, they argue that Christian values persist and that the West remains deeply Christian. They also explore the case for theism, highlighting evidence of design and purpose in the universe, and the significance of Christianity from an evolutionary perspective, emphasizing its resilience and explanatory power. However, they also acknowledge the challenges posed by secularizing Christianity without its underlying beliefs and the strain on the enduring faith of the West, underscoring the tension between our hope and the loss of faith.