In this interview, Sam Altman discusses the early days of OpenAI, the decision to pursue AGI, and the challenges they faced, including skepticism from others and competition from DeepMind. He emphasizes the importance of focusing on a unique mission to attract top talent and advises aspiring entrepreneurs to identify markets with the potential for significant growth, even if the path forward seems unclear. Altman also shares insights on the future of AI, highlighting the gap between model capabilities and product innovation, the decreasing costs of APIs, and the potential of open-source models. He envisions a future where AI becomes a personalized assistant integrated into various aspects of life, proactively helping users and seamlessly blending into the background. The conversation touches on the convergence of reasoning and multimodal models, the potential for AI-powered robots, and the need for new approaches to bring manufacturing back to America. Altman also addresses concerns about OpenAI's dominance, emphasizing the company's desire to be a platform for others to build upon and encouraging entrepreneurs to pursue unique ideas rather than directly competing with OpenAI's core products.