This podcast episode explores the concept of Data Availability (DA) in blockchains, discussing its importance, qualities, and implications for users and investors. The speakers delve into the evolving landscape of DA, examining the shift towards cheaper alternatives and the dominance of Celestia as a DA layer. They also discuss the economics of DA, considering the challenges of providing baseline rates of return and sustaining economic incentives. Additionally, the potential of Celestia's TIA token as a monetary asset is explored, along with the differentiation and growth of DA solutions in the near future.